No.72511
Twice as strong means it debuffs down two ranks right at the first use
No.72514
>>72509i guess i could ditch dekaja and samarecarm though
No.72516
>>72508hmm so he doubles debuffs i see, his death flies does have a base power of 320, i mean you could force him to have wom*n along , artemis has somersault which lowers by 2 ranks not to mention cleo frolic with no charm null lowers attack/def
i mean if you think about it you don't really need boon boost if youre healing regularly with idun which you would be against shiva, and having overheal with 2 ranks of defense could comparable to lowering thier attack and you could lower defense with somersault artemis
i think beezlebub needs to take a mandatory online class on respect in the work force
No.72523
Ok yeah murakumo has like 600 more damage on crit than freikugel with fully debuffed Shiva
>>72516Its a shame you cant run him with Metatron desu…Or any angel really. I have like 3 of them and all of them are pretty decent, but now i have to use the pajeet patreon to run belzebub instead…I guess maybe if i slap impaler animus on Yoshi that might work out too, but then i`ll have to also get another enduring soul for him. Maybe swap him with mother harlot, although i wouldnt have a dekaja then, and if i replace krishna with yoshi i wouldnt be able to heal.
>>72516>i think beezlebub needs to take a mandatory online class on respect in the work forceDont do this, he a good boy, he dindu nuffin
I wonder if theres a human version of him available in the game
>>72517Well i dont have use it, thats the issue, but i have a full stock of full hp revival items so its whatever i think
>>72520Thats too much trouble figuring it out for my smooth brain sorry
No.72525
>>72523well if you wrinkle up your brain you can remember amanzakos heavenly reversal , which activates on her switching in which reverses all stat buffs/debuffs for everyone, which if you were to use after shivas tandava would result in a 2+buff defense or anytime the stat buffs are not in your favor, revival chant is found from an aogami essance in zeus area
good healers/support are all woman so i dont know a suitable replacement actually LOL
No.72529
>>72525>well if you wrinkle up your brain you can remember amanzakos heavenly reversal , which activates on her switching in which reverses all stat buffs/debuffs for everyoneI did that but then she just dies on the next turn desu, and you`ll have to return her back to stock on every tandava because otherwise that buff just goes poof. Better just dekaja it and move on, imo. Yeah i have revival chant, i just dont use it (on beano), not sure if anyone else can use it deus.
>good healers/support are all woman so i dont know a suitable replacement actually LOLI use krishna as a kind of a healer desu, you could theoretically just slap a mediarahan on almost anyone too.
>>72526Yeah another downside to her revearsal is that if you have any other buffs active they also get turned.
No.72532
>>72530I kind of tried switching him out every time i use debilitate desu, it lasts long enough to not bother having to switch him back in for a while but hes also surprisingly tanky and voids a lot of stuff so id rather keep him on the field. Oh well, i almost got it anyways i think, just have to try a bit more.
No.72553
>>72548>Fenrirtru banters remember…
No.72559
>>72553actually his second namefag (kraut something) was cooler
No.72562
Yeah i dont think im beating demi-fiend on hard
Gonna just finish this playthrough and go for hard true/normal Masakado some other day
No.72603
>>72548epic
>>72559butthurtkruaen or something
>>72562demi fiend is an entire different beast i dont last more than 6 turns with him
No.72650
>>72603>butthurtkruaen or somethingyeah that one
>demi fiend is an entire different beast i dont last more than 6 turns with himHe killed me in 2 turns lol. Well it would be one turn really, have i not picked up the extra life item in the room before his fight. Anyways looks like i got chaos ending this time around, pretty kewl although i was thinking of doing law if i ever got a choice becaues Yoko kinda isnt really very convincing sadly.
No.72782
>>72723Pandain is very funny
No.72800
>Super Lucifer
Okay this is epic!
No.72801
>>72800But… That name sounds retarded!
No.72802
When he hit me for 2.5k damage i felt that
>>72801Well actually his name is just
Lucifer but since you get to fight his powered up version i called it super
No.72859
>>72800actually me made have to big brain desu
if you dont destroy his big summons you get nuked haha, it took me like 20 minutes between juggling healing/rebuffing and whittling him down
No.72864
>>72859he feels like a damage check desu, i didnt even bother destroying the star in the last phase desu, just used shield of god and tank it
In other new this nigger just dodged the murakumo which was supposed to kill him and raped my team, i think he unironically might be harder than shiva actually
No.72866
Also seems like he will just use dekunda if you fully debuff him (Nocturne moment) so maybe it makes sense to only debuff him down one level
No.72867
Maybe i`ll actually go Idun+Shiva+Yoshi as a starting party and then switch to Flyman+Vishnu+Gabu/Metatron into phase 3 cuz Vishnu has mediarahan and luster candy…Just have to switch the angels out when i need to debuff the boss.
No.72875
>>72865yeah he was more demanding than shiva by a lot i think it actually took me like half an hour desu
i thought it was a skill issue on my part that i found myself spending more time recovering than actually attacking lol i almost blew it during his last phase by letting his nuke go off but mc survived with enduring soul
No.73180
Okay time for the third lap
This time im bringing Masakado down and hopefully demi-fiend
No.73188
>>73182Kinda lame how they didnt give you Lucifers fusion after defeating him desu
No.73190
>>73189Uhhhh no, how do you get to this guy?
No.73193
Hmmm apparently you have to beat super lucifer and it unlocks on another playthrough?
No.73241
>>73196I did that and he gave me a quest to kill Samael
But now i overwrote my save already ;_;
I guess i`ll just go play IV now and return to it eventually
No.73242
I think Demeter is pretty busted actually, feels like she carried me in both superboss fights desu, that unique skill is pretty crazy. Although with Lucifer i also got lucky enough to have fantastically smooth first two phases.
No.73351
Damn Medussy is kinda raping me
No.73381
>>73241did he not give you another quest after?
>>73242yeah guaranteed overheal is pretty strong
No.73383
>>73381Im pretty sure he didnt, its probably because i havent gotten to fight lucifer on my first playthrough